she said.
Across the border, the Canadian Polyamory Advocacy Association, which
calls for the rights of the “Poly Majority,” says the community has “custom-made”
relationships.
In addition to the organizations
listed above that are specifically dedicated to polyamory, there are a number
of foundations, associations, and alliances dedicated to serving sex and gender
minorities like kinksters, gays and lesbians, and polyamorists or others in
consensually non-monogamous relationships.
DR ELISABETH SHEFF
ROBYN L TRASK
Robyn is the Executive Director of
Loving More Non-Profit, a national leader for polyamory awareness, polyamory
counselor, workshop facilitator and writer. Since 2004 Robyn has worked to
expand media awareness of polyamory appearing in numerous articles, radio shows
and TV. Robyn and Loving More were instrumental in the formation of Polyamory
Leadership Network. A national speaker and advocate for polyamory she has been
a speaker at conferences, taught at universities and been a featured keynote
speaker. Robyn has been openly polyamorous for 23 years, raising three children
in a polyamorous family. Robyn has been running polyamory support groups,
teaching and facilitating relationship and sexuality workshop since 1999. In
addition she counsels polyamorous individuals and families. Currently Robyn is
working on two polyamory related books.
http://www.kamaladevi.com/photos#.WbZ56zGQzcs
Robyn L Trask
JENNIFER KING
| Love
the Ones You’re With
|
Pali
Paths supports “polyamorous” relationships for people who want intimacy with
more than one person — at the same time.
JENNIFER KING April 29, 1998
|
http://www.polyamorysociety.org/Honolulu_Weekly_Polyamory_Article.html
Kamala Michael McClure
Rachel Rickards
Get Ready for the Polyamory Movement August 22, 2016 by Erin Wathen
Guest post, by Katherine Willis
Pershey.
Me, my wife and my live-in
girlfriend: Polyamorous couple on sharing their bed with another woman - and
how it benefits their six-year-old son
- Kamala Devi and Michael McClure, aged 38 and 49
respectively, have been married for 12 years but swore off monogamy from
the start
- Six months ago they welcomed 27-year-old
bisexual Rachel Rickards into their home in San Diego, California married
couple who identify as polyamorists have opened up about their
unconventional relationship, revealing how an active sex life boosts their
mood and keeps them fit.
Kamala Devi and Michael McClure, aged 38 and 49
respectively, swore off monogamy from day one. They have up to a dozen
different lovers each - some to themselves and some who they share.
Six months ago they welcomed 27-year-old bisexual Rachel
Rickards into their home in San Diego, California, and now the three of them
enjoy each other's company - and bodies.
Kamala Devi (right) and
Michael McClure (center), aged 38 and 49 respectively, have been married for 12
years but they both swore off monogamy - six months ago they welcomed
27-year-old bisexual Rachel Rickards (left) into their home"
Kamala Devi Michael McClure Rickards
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2513813/Polyamorous-couple-sharing-bed-woman.html#ixzz4sNMpghC7
MANUEL BERMUDEZ, VICTOR HUGO PRADA AND ALEJANDRO
RODRIGUEZ
Manuel Bermudez, Victor Hugo Prada and Alejandro Rodriguez have
become the first trio to wed in a legally recognised same-sex marriage in
Colombia (Picture: CEN)
Three men have made history by becoming the first trio to
wed in a same-sex ceremony in Colombia.
Manuel Bermudez, Victor Hugo Prada and Alejandro Rodriguez
tied the knot in a romantic ceremony on Saturday in the city of Medellin, in
the north-western Colombian department of Antioquia.
Three people are legally allowed to marry each other in
Colombia, where it is known as a ‘trieja’ – a word derived from two others:
trio and pareja: trio and couple.
The trio became the first same-sex trio to tie the knot
after spending years in love.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/06/14/three-men-marry-in-first-legally-recognised-polyamorous-wedding-6708801/#ixzz4sNNjLW3O
Kris Riek, Pete Benson, and Deborah Benson
Kristin (Kris), Pete, and Deborah are a
polyamorous triad. Polyamory (called “poly” for short) describes relationships
in which there are more than two partners or participants. Unlike swingers
whose lifestyles thrive on casual sexual encounters, and polygamists who marry
more than one person for religious or spiritual reasons, polyamorists see their
relationships as a nurturing emotional connectedness between people.
The partners are like any couple trying
to make their relationship work. Fulfilling the needs of three people is a
demanding balancing act. But at least for now, the triad has resolved the issue
of “musical beds.”
http://www.fluxstories.com/2013/03/loving-more-a-portrait-of-polyamory/
ADAM
LYONS LIVES WITH BROOKE SHEDD AND JANE SHALAKHOVA
Short version of this new one: Adam was a lonely nerd, took pickup
artist lessons, got so good at it that he set up shop as a dating coach,
married "Alexandra," they moved to Texas, the marriage hit the rocks,
they tried going poly to save the marriage, that worked until it didn't, and
they broke up. Adam paired up with Brooke, they went on a unicorn hunt — and
found one. Adam, Brooke and Jane have been happy ever after (we're given to
believe) and are raising two kids in L.A.
Dating coach Adam Lyons lives with
Brooke Shedd and Jane Shalakhova in a polyamorous relationship
SO CALLED “LIBERATED CHRISTIANS”
Liberated
Christians PO Box 55045, Phoenix AZ
85078-5045
Promoting Intimacy and Other-Centered Sexuality
COPYRIGHTED 1999 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED - MAY BE REPRINTED OR QUOTED FROM ONLY IF
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MULTIPLE INTIMATE RELATIONSHIPS - A SUMMARY OF LIBERATED CHRISTIANS' VIEWS
(IMPORTANT NOTE: This statement will show that Liberated
Christians' views are not to be identified with Mormonism or the beliefs and
practices of "Christian polygamists" groups which have been recently
profiled by the media. Recent news stories have mentioned Liberated Christians
along with these groups. This statement will also show that, strictly speaking,
our views are not to be too closely identified with the patriarchal polygamy of
the Old Testament Hebrews.)
INTRODUCTION
Recent media attention has been paid to fundamentalist Mormon sects and
families which continue to practice polygamy and also to certain groups which
describe themselves as non-Mormon
"Christian polygamists."
In light of these developments, we feel it is
important to make a statement which summarizes our beliefs and distinguishes
them from the beliefs of these recently publicized groups.
This statement does not contain biblical quotes to
document or describe our beliefs. Various materials on this web site deal in a
more detailed fashion with these beliefs and the relevant biblical material.
EVIDENCE
FROM THE BIBLICAL RECORD
We believe that the idea of multiple sexual partners is in no way prohibited by
the teachings of the Hebrew or Christian scriptures.
The ancient Hebrews, as portrayed in the Old
Testament, clearly believed in multiple partnerships and this practice is nowhere
condemned by God.
When the New Testament scriptures are viewed as a
whole, taking into account the cultural context in which they were written, it
is clear that neither Jesus nor the writers of the New Testament condemned such
practice, although it appears that polygamy had, for non-religious reasons,
substantially declined within Jewish culture by the time of Christ.
Despite this biblical evidence, the Christian church
has persistently opposed polygamous relationships and has, at times, actively
persecuted families which chose to practice this lifestyle. The church has also
used twisted interpretations of various scriptures in defense of its opposition
to this lifestyle.
A
STARTING POINT FOR MULTIPLE INTIMATE RELATIONSHIPS
It is our view that God's evident acceptance of the type of polygamy that
existed among the Hebrews is a starting point for discussing and developing
modern views on multiple intimate relationships. However, it is important to
notice certain characteristics of that form of polygamy which we believe are
deficient in light of the perspectives of Jesus and the character of the New
Covenant in Christ that we find in the New Testament scriptures.
The practice of POLYGAMY among the Hebrews was,
technically, the practice of POLYGYNY, i.e., the idea of one man having
multiple wives. In the Hebrew culture and many others throughout history,
polygyny was connected with a strong PATRIARCHAL structure in which wives were
viewed as PHYSICAL PROPERTY of their husbands. This structure, shared with
other Near Eastern peoples who were contemporaries of the Hebrews, severely
restricted the rights and freedoms of women, even though certain protections
for them were built into the laws
regulating marital and family life.
A NEW
BEGINNING FOR MULTIPLE INTIMATE RELATIONSHIPS
While we view God's acceptance of this form of polygamy under the OLD COVENANT
(God's relationship with the Hebrews) as indicating his approval of multiple
relationships, we believe that under the NEW COVENANT (God's relationship with
both Jews and Gentiles through Jesus the Messiah) it was God's intention to
modify the patriarchal system in order to give greater equality to women. We
believe that substantial hints of a new order of respect and freedom for women
may be discerned in Jesus' relationship with women and their prominence in the
ministry of the apostles and the earliest Christian church. We see no reason
why this new freedom should not apply to relationship styles, as well as other
aspects of spiritual life.
Thus, our views of multiple relationships are based
on a greater freedom of BOTH sexes to relate intimately to partners of their
choice. This means that women may have multiple partners, as well as men.
(Technically, this form of polygamy is called POLYANDRY.) Regardless of the
form, these partners are not to be treated possessively and jealously as
property, but set free to share themselves, in Christian love, with others, as
they choose.
In some of the material on our web site it will be
noticed that we appeal to the practice of the Old Testament Hebrews as support
for our views. We continue to grow in our understanding of the message of the
New Testament regarding love, freedom and a better perspective on the role of
women in the family and church. As we do, we are relying more upon these New
Testament ideas as a foundation for our views of multiple relationships than on
the concepts found in the Hebrew scriptures.
"POLYAMORY"-A
NEW TERM FOR A NEW BEGINNING
The modern term, POLYAMORY (a Greek and Latin hybrid meaning "more
loves" or "loving more than one"), was coined a number of years
ago as an alternative to "responsible non-monogamy," a rather
cumbersome term that was current among those who believed in multiple
relationships. In Liberated Christians we also use this term for two additional
purposes: to indicate that the relationships we advocate should be founded on
principles of Christian love and as a way of distinguishing those relationships
from patriarchal polygamy.
OUR VIEWS
AND THOSE OF MODERN "POLYGAMISTS"
In light of the preceding statements, it should be clear that our views of
Christian polyamory are not compatible with those of patriarchal Mormonism. In
addition, Mormons once practiced polygamy in obedience to unique doctrinal
beliefs, compatible with their patriarchal religion, which relate to heavenly
rewards for Mormon males. Although polygamy was formally renounced by the
Mormon Church more than a hundred years ago, some Mormons still practice the
lifestyle, many organized into fundamentalist sects. It is important to stress
that our views of polyamory have no such doctrinal connections.
Nor is Liberated Christians to be confused with
certain contemporary "Christian polygamy" movements, which are
clearly patriarchal in nature, even though they are not Mormon in doctrine.
Some of these groups have recently set up shop in isolated areas of Utah and
other western states, where they believe they will, like their Mormon
"cousins," be able to escape notice. They have, however, been discovered
by the media, which has produced numerous newspaper, magazine and TV
news-magazine reports on their beliefs and practices.
Typical of the sound-bite culture of modern
journalism, which seems to neglect thorough research under the pressure of
beating competing news organizations to sensational stories, some recent news
stories have lumped Liberated Christians in with both the Mormon sects and the
newly-noticed "Christian polygamists." It is important to us that we
distance ourselves from these groups.
WHAT WE
ARE AND WHAT WE AREN'T
In addition to distinguishing ourselves from the groups mentioned above, it is
important to note that Liberated Christians is neither a church nor a cult. We
do not advocate that Christians who share our views separate themselves from their
churches or isolate themselves in cult-like groups. However, we do recognize
that Christians who believe as we do may wish to find fellowship with others of
like mind. We encourage them to do that and try to facilitate it through
certain divisions of our web site and through personal contacts.
We in no way advocate or support individuals who
wish to cheat on their spouses by establishing intimate relationships without
their partner's knowledge and consent. In this sense, the old term
"responsible non-monogamy" or the term "consensual
non-monogamy" is a valid watchword within our circle. We believe that a
true, loving polyamory can only exist when all partners are in agreement
concerning the relationships.
We are primarily an information source for Christians
who are interested in exploring their natural tendency toward multiple
relationships and provide biblical study material supporting their interests.
We have no formal membership. We do not sell
anything except for packets of printed material for those who do not have
access to our Internet web site and a few video tapes related to the poly
lifestyle. We also offer Sybian machines for women at a discounted price and we
receive a small referral fee from the distribututor to help defray our costs.
Liberated Christians is a registered non-profit
(though not tax-exempt) entity, almost the entire financial support of which
comes from the personal funds of the founders, who earn their living through
ordinary occupations. The founders, far from getting rich through Liberated
Christians, are, in fact, substantially poorer for their efforts. This is a
labor of love, not of profit. We are, however, grateful for supporters who
occasionally contribute to the ministry.
HOW WE
VIEW THE BIBLE
The founders of Liberated Christians accept the Bible as our teaching source
regarding our relationships with God and others and in that sense we might even
be considered "conservative" Christians. We simply believe that the
central biblical principle of loving God and loving neighbor may legitimately
cover the practice of multiple intimate or sexual relationships. We believe
that the tendency towards multiple relationships is a normal human tendency,
not the product of sin.
We also believe that the Bible, especially the New
Testament, does not teach the repressive, legalistic style of life and
spirituality that has tended to characterize traditional Christianity and which
stifles personal liberty in all areas of life, including the realm of sexuality
and intimate relationships. In addition to advocating a liberated sexuality
(which is not, by the way, the kind of "licentiousness" of which we
are accused by our critics), we believe in a larger freedom to live our total
lives under the "rule" of love that is possible if the Bible and the
gospel of Christ are taken seriously.
WHO ARE
THE PEOPLE WHO SHARE OUR VIEWS?
Many of them are mainstream, evangelical Christians,
including pastors and their wives, church elders and Sunday school teachers.
Some are seminary-trained theologians. Others are lay men and women from many
different church backgrounds or no organized Christian background at all. They
come from all walks of life, including college students, doctors, ministry
professionals, housewives and blue-collar workers. They may be your neighbors,
co-workers or even your relatives. (Scary, isn't it?!) They are ordinary people
who have simply acknowledged that they have polyamorous desires, as do most
other people who are unable to admit it to themselves, their partners, their
church or their God.
THE FRUIT
OF THIS MINISTRY
Thousands of people from all parts of the world "hit" our web site
weekly. Of the many who contact us, most indicate that they have considered
thoughts similar to ours for some period of time, but had no idea that such
views could be reconciled with biblical Christianity. Almost invariably, they
express their gratitude for finding relief from the conflicts they have
experienced between their faith and the inclinations they have had for
expanding their loving relationships.
In the more than six years (including the two years
that we have operated the web site) that we have been hearing the
"stories" of those who contact us, becoming regular correspondents
with many and personal friends of some, we have become convinced that there is
a substantial sub-culture of Christian individuals and couples who believe
essentially as we do. Many of these people are from "conservative" or
"evangelical" backgrounds and are desperately looking for fellowship
with those of like mind. It is those people whom we are trying to assist in
their growth toward a peaceful acceptance of the basic goodness of their
sexuality and their polyamorous desires and toward a mature, spiritually sound
practice of the poly lifestyle.
Progressive Christian
The
problem with this view is that it’s not Biblical at all.
Scripture
should be studied in context.
And
Scripture are to be used in explaining other parts of Scripture
Scripture
must be studied as a whole.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS
Why can't I have a biblically based
family with multiple partners? Most of the great men of the Bible - Abraham,
Jacob, David, Solomon - had many wives. Given your ministry's strong commitment
to the Scriptures, I can't see why you're against things like polygamy and
polyamory. I consider myself a polyamorous Christian. I love several different
women, and there's no reason we can't build a strong family together on a
foundation of consensual, ethical, and responsible non-monogamy. When did the
"change" occur that established marriage as a covenant relationship
between one woman and one man?
There never was any change. God
intended that marriage should work this way from the very beginning: "Then
the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He
brought her to the man. And Adam said, 'This is now bone of my bones and flesh
of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.'
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife,
and they shall become one flesh" (Genesis 2:22-24). As these verses show
very clearly, monogamy was inherent to God's plan for humanity from the moment
of creation.
You're correct, of course, to point
out that several of the Old Testament patriarchs and kings had a number of
wives. What you have failed to notice is that the Bible never really condones
this practice. It simply describes it as part of the lifestyle of a
typical ancient Middle-eastern chieftain. The Israelites probably picked up the
custom of polygamy from their pagan neighbors.
If you study these biblical
instances of polygamy in detail, you'll discover that none of them is
portrayed in a positive light. In every case, the practice of keeping multiple
wives results in problems for the king or patriarch in question. In some cases
those problems are very serious indeed. If you doubt this, take a closer look
at the lives of Abraham, Jacob, and David. Solomon is the best known and most
extreme example of this principle. In the end, it was his many wives who led
him into idolatry and destroyed his faith in the Lord.
Add to this the fact that polygamy
had all but disappeared in Israel by the time of Christ. Paul's instructions in
Titus 1 and 1 Timothy 3, specifying that deacons and elders must be "the
husband of one wife," probably don't have anything to do with polygamy per
se. Instead, they grow out of a problem that is far more familiar to most
of us as modern Americans: divorce and what has sometimes been called
"serial polygamy." The Romans were notorious for this kind of thing.
It seems that their customs and habits had rubbed off on many of the occupied
peoples of the Empire. This is part of the background for the question about
the resurrection that the Sadducees brought to Jesus in Mark 12:18-27.
But enough of the historical
perspective. Let's get back to the heart of your question. The real issue here
is your claim to be a Christian who "loves several different women"
and who wants to build a "family" on the basis of "responsible
non-monogamy." That's an extremely risky proposition as far as we're
concerned. Do you really believe you can make it work? Along with the biblical
and theological difficulties, your plan has some serious practical, legal, and
logistical flaws. What's more, it raises big questions about your understanding
of the exclusivity of sexual love (which the biblical writers often
use as a symbol for the exclusivity of our relationship with God).
In short, we think it might be a
good idea for you to sit down and have a serious discussion with someone about
the personal
motives behind your "polyamorous" designs. With
that in mind, we'd like to invite you to call and speak with one of our Focus
on the Family pastoral counselors. They are available
at
this number.
https://www.focusonthefamily.com/family-q-and-a/relationships-and-marriage/biblical-perspectives-on-polygamy-and-polyamory
What does
the Bible say about polyamory?

By S. Michael
Houdmann, Got Questions
Ministries
The word
"polyamory" is a compound of two words: "poly," which is
Greek for "many," and "amor," which is Latin for
"love." It refers to a relationship in which a person has multiple
sexual partners (not necessarily at the same time, i.e., threesomes). A
polyamorous relationship is supposedly distinguished from "swinging"
by the idea that polyamory involves love while swinging is simply
recreational/casual sex.
Polyamory has long been common in dating relationships. Recently, the idea has
expanded into "open marriages." An open marriage is a marriage in
which one or both spouses are allowed to have extra-marital affairs. After all,
if you truly love someone, shouldn't you allow him/her to explore, to follow
the desires of his/her heart?
In reality, polyamory is poly-lust-ory. There is nothing "amor" about
it. Polyamory is absolutely incompatible with what the Bible says about marital
love. Marital love is pure,
faithful, committed, and yes, jealous. Just as God is jealous for the worship
that only He is worthy of (Exodus 20:5),
so should spouses be jealous of the love that should only be given to them.
Advocates of polyamory warn against the tendency towards jealousy. Imagine
that!
It does not matter if a spouse gives permission or even participates in the
polyamorous relationships. We do not get to redefine what the Bible says is
sin. The Bible clearly and consistently declares that sex outside of marriage
is immoral (Galatians 5:19;
Ephesians 5:3;
Colossians 3:5;
1 Thessalonians 4:3).
It is adultery, plain and simple (Exodus 20:14).
There are "scientific" studies claiming that polyamory is genetic.
Really?! You think?! "The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual
immorality, impurity and debauchery" (Galatians 5:19).
Of course it is genetic! Sin is hard-wired into our genetic code. We are
infected with a desire for all things ungodly and immoral.
It should not surprise us that polyamory is increasingly being accepted in our
society. It should not even surprise us that some view polyamory as compatible
with marriage. Our society rejects God and His Word, and as a result, there is
no authoritative standard for what marriage is. Whether it is gay marriage,
polygamy, or polyamory – these are logical results of rejecting the biblical
definition of marriage.
What's next? Pedophilia? Acceptance of incest within a family? Bestiality? Some
may scoff and claim those perversions will never be accepted, but I hear the
same claims coming out of those groups. "We love each other."
"It is all consensual, no one is forced to do anything." "Who
are you to question who and how I love?"
During the Winter Olympics, an athlete who serves as a youth pastor and is
dedicated to his wife and children was described as living an alternative
lifestyle. Sadly and disturbingly, traditional marriage is increasingly
becoming an alternative lifestyle. But, you know what? I'll take it. It is an
alternative to immorality and perversion. It is an alternative to fake love and
disrupted intimacy. It is an alternative to the lies and deception with which
the god of this world seeks to hide the truth.
"...the
god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from
seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ…" (2 Corinthians 4:4).
http://www.blogos.org/gotquestions/polyamory.
TOWARD
A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE ON POLYAMORY:
A Conversation Between Rev. Danny Cortez
and Rev. Dr. Jeff Hood
J: Is there room in the Bible for polyamorous relationships?
D: I don’t see polyamory spoken of positively at all in scripture.
When polyamory is mentioned, it is not approved or valued.
J: I think we are going to disagree on this. There are multiple
points in the Old Testament were intimate love is shared equally by more than
two people. I see love as the thrust of scripture. Throughout the
scriptures, love being confined to a couple and only shared within that couple
is not the normative construct. In the Old Testament, you have all of
these plural relationships. In the New Testament, we are encouraged to
not get married at all. Despite what evangelicals and fundamentalists
would have us to believe, marriage and family is not the chief end of the
scriptures at all.
D: The polyamorous relationships in the Old Testament are not motivated
by love. These relationships are motivated by money and power. The
polyamorous relationships in the Old Testament seem destructive. The men
function as misogynistic and patriarchal dictators of multiple women.
J: There is no question that the way that polyamory was practiced in the
Old Testament is problematic. When Jesus comes and shows us a new way of
being, I have to wonder if that doesn’t open the world up to new and equal ways
of sharing love. On some level, I think the disciples and Jesus were
involved in some sort of polyamorous relationship. Love seemed to be
pretty free flowing around Jesus.
D: First, I don’t believe the disciples had any type of sexual
relationship with Jesus. Second, Paul makes it clear that marriages are
to be made up of two people. Paul places a premium on singleness and
calls all that are able to remain as such
J: I find Paul’s patriarchal words to be derogatory, demeaning and
dismissive.
D: I get it. It’s like… If you can’t control your body then
go ahead… I don’t think that is what Paul meant to convey. When you
share your self with more than one person, the intimacy factor begins to go
down. Love begins to lesson when it is shared beyond the intimate
partner.
J: I disagree. I think that it is quite possible for love and
intimacy to grow the more that it is shared.
D: How about an analogy? I think the more limited something is the more
valuable it becomes.
J: Would you not say that love is a limited commodity anyways? I
think love is something to embrace with all that we are whenever we find it.
D: It is true that love should be cultivated wherever you find it, but I
am talking about the sexual intimacy part. When I think about my
relationships with people, there are different levels of intimacy that I
embrace with different people…but there is only one person that I am most
intimate with…my wife. There are things that I do with my wife that I don’t
do with anyone else. If I were to expand that, the intimacy would
diminish.
J: I experience deep intimate relationships with persons who are not my
wife. Danny, I would say that our friendship is an intimate relationship
for me. I have been really blessed by knowing you. The more
difficult piece of this is that many polyamorous relationships are situations
where our culture has pushed closeted LGBT people to get married and instead of
getting divorced from someone they have grown to love…some people decide to
bring a third partner into the relationship. This situation is a result
of our oppression. How can lovingly tell these folks that what they are
doing is wrong? Some of these polyamorous relationships come from a
desire to do no harm.
D: I will have to admit that I don’t know anyone in a polyamorous
relationship. I feel like I can only speak from a distant theoretical
understanding. This is a subject that I have little experience with.
J: Would you welcome a polyamorous family into your church?
D: I would receive them without question.
J: Would you bring all three parents or four parents up during a baby
dedication or any other special church service?
D: I have no desire to police the relationships of our people.
J: I am not interested in condemning love. If people have learned
to love each other and not do violence to each other, I just want to let them
be. I love my neighbor as my self by letting them be.
D: I don’t think that scripture gives a robust position on this topic.
J: I don’t think that scripture gives any position on this topic.
D: I don’t think there is enough evidence in scripture to outright
condemn polyamory. I just don’t believe it is the ideal that scripture is
pointing us towards.
J: What about celebrating it? How would you help them to
feel a part of the community?
D: I would invite them into my home. I would treat them the same
as I would a relationship made up of two people. I would respect whatever
they wanted to be called. I would love them.
J: You know we don’t believe in the holy couple. We believe in the
Holy Polyamorous Trinity.
D: Throughout the world, we have spent so much time trying to manipulate
and control people’s relationships. Whatever they look like, we need to
spend more time helping people strengthen their relationships. I do
believe that.
J: I don’t believe that the polyamorous struggle for equality is all
that different from the LGBT struggle for equality. Love is love. I
believe that the people of God must always stand on the side of love.
* Brother D asked me to add this clarification from his
perspective:
So to be clear, even though polygamy was allowed in the OT, I believe
the trajectory of scripture moves us towards monogamy. So when I say, I
wouldn’t police the relationships, I say that in the same way missionaries have
addressed polyamory in other cultures. What I meant is similar to what John
Piper’s stance is in understanding that we need to give grace to people who are
already in these relationships. Piper gives insight into the dilemma
missionaries find themselves in when they encounter polygamy. Do we police the
relationship and force them to divorce? Or do we leave room for grace?
John Piper writes, “When a polygamist is converted what should he do
about his marriages? My inclination is to cut a lot of slack in the mission
field as people move from the first to the second generation. So many things
culturally have to be adjusted to biblical reality. Jesus, I think, clarified
for us that marriage is one man and one woman, as it was in the beginning in
Genesis 2:24. So that the divorce features of Deuteronomy were “given for the
hardness of your heart, but it was not always so. And so now I don’t want you
to do what they were doing.” I think polygamy fits into that same paradigm. God
tolerated polygamy among the patriarchs. He never in the Old Testament
communicated, “Stop doing that,” except by implication from Genesis 2….So I
think you shouldn’t be married to two women today, or a woman to two men. And
yet there are cultures that do it. And so you want to go evangelize those
cultures. And you win them to Christ and now they have two wives. I might say,
“OK, those who have two wives, be faithful to both of them until the next
generation, or until one of them dies. But never do this again.” It’s hard for
me, culturally, to know what the alternatives would be. In a sense I want to
step back and say to the missionaries, I’m so distant from your problem at this
point, that I don’t feel like I should get on a soap box and tell you how to do
this. I want the principle to be clear. Preach to them, “One wife.” Now they
may have a way of figuring that out so that they’re not having two wives
anymore, but I just don’t know enough about the situation.”
I also don’t think describing the trinity as a polyamorous relationship
is helpful since it’s a language that would affirm polyamory. But Jeff, these
are the places we disagree and it’s always good to have dialogue with you.
BIBLE POLYAMORY AN OXYMORON.
When our
Lord Christ said we were to love one another He did not grant any license to
fornicate far and wide and especially from within a marriage. Anyone who claims
to be Christian and at the same time engage in polyamorous pursuits, are doing
so without any Scriptural endorsement. On the contrary, they are breaching the
very principles of marriage expounded in God's Word from cover to cover. The
woman was made for the man who is to provide headship. This headship he can
provide for multiple women, thus one man with more than one woman in marriage
is acceptable to God. Married men and married women engaging in multiple sexual
encounters, whether short, long term or committed, are outside His definition
of Biblical Marriage. Any multiple couples all swapping beds but claiming to be
polygamous are in fact not, they are adulterers plain and simple. Let me be
very clear, any married woman sexing with any other man is committing adultery
as is the single or married man sleeping with her.
Deu
22:22 If a man is found lying with a
woman married to a husband, then they shall both of them die, the man that lay with
the woman, and the woman. So you shall put away evil from Israel.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband
lives, she is married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress. But if
the husband dies, she is free from the law, so that she is no adulteress by
becoming another man's wife.
Biblical
Polygamy or Polygyny is not fleshly indulgence in multiple, wife, husband
swapping sexual gratifications. It is to be deplored that more and more
polyamorous "christians" and non-Christians are linking themselves to
polygyny groups and dragging a Biblical ideal into the gutter. It might be time
to leave polygamy to the masses and Christians claim the word that truly
defines us; polygyny.
http://www.biblepolygamy.com/biblepolyamory.html
"WHY DID GOD ALLOW POLYGAMY / BIGAMY IN THE BIBLE?"
Answer: The question of polygamy is an interesting one in that most people today
view polygamy as immoral while the Bible nowhere explicitly condemns it. The
first instance of polygamy/bigamy in the Bible was that of Lamech in Genesis 4:19: “Lamech married two women.” Several prominent men
in the Old Testament were polygamists. Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, and
others all had multiple wives. Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines
(essentially wives of a lower status), according to 1 Kings 11:3. What are we to do with these instances of
polygamy in the Old Testament? There are three questions that need to be
answered: 1) Why did God allow polygamy in the Old Testament? 2) How does God
view polygamy today? 3) Why did it change?
1) Why did God allow polygamy in the Old Testament? The Bible does not
specifically say why God allowed polygamy. As we speculate about God’s silence,
there are a few key factors to consider. First, while there are slightly more
male babies than female babies, due to women having longer lifespans, there
have always been more women in the world than men. Current statistics show that
approximately 50.5 percent of the world population are women. Assuming the same
percentages in ancient times, and multiplied by millions of people, there would
be tens of thousands more women than men. Second, warfare in ancient times was
especially brutal, with an incredibly high rate of fatality. This would have
resulted in an even greater percentage of women to men. Third, due to
patriarchal societies, it was nearly impossible for an unmarried woman to
provide for herself. Women were often uneducated and untrained. Women relied on
their fathers, brothers, and husbands for provision and protection. Unmarried
women were often subjected to prostitution and slavery. The significant
difference between the number of women and men would have left many, many women
in an undesirable situation.
So, it seems that God may have allowed polygamy to protect and provide for the
women who could not find a husband otherwise. A man would take multiple wives
and serve as the provider and protector of all of them. While definitely not
ideal, living in a polygamist household was far better than the alternatives:
prostitution, slavery, or starvation. In addition to the protection/provision
factor, polygamy enabled a much faster expansion of humanity, fulfilling God’s
command to “be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth” (Genesis 9:7). Men are capable of impregnating multiple women
in the same time period, causing humanity to grow much faster than if each man
was only producing one child each year.
2) How does God view polygamy today? Even while allowing polygamy, the Bible
presents monogamy as the plan which conforms most closely to God’s ideal for
marriage. The Bible says that God’s original intention was for one man to be
married to only one woman: “For this reason a man will leave his father and
mother and be united to his wife [not wives], and they will become one flesh
[not fleshes]” (Genesis 2:24). While Genesis 2:24 is describing what marriage is, rather than how
many people are involved, the consistent use of the singular should be noted.
In Deuteronomy 17:14-20, God says that the kings were not
supposed to multiply wives (or horses or gold). While this cannot be
interpreted as a command that the kings must be monogamous, it can be
understood as declaring that having multiple wives causes problems. This can be
clearly seen in the life of Solomon (1 Kings 11:3-4).
In the New Testament, 1 Timothy 3:2, 12 and Titus 1:6 give “the husband of one wife” in a list of
qualifications for spiritual leadership. There is some debate as to what
specifically this qualification means. The phrase could literally be translated
“a one-woman man.” Whether or not this phrase is referring exclusively to
polygamy, in no sense can a polygamist be considered a “one-woman man.” While
these qualifications are specifically for positions of spiritual leadership,
they should apply equally to all Christians. Should not all Christians be
“above reproach...temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to
teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a
lover of money” (1 Timothy 3:2-4)? If we are called to be holy (1 Peter 1:16), and if these standards are holy for elders and
deacons, then they are holy for all.
Ephesians 5:22-33 speaks of the relationship between
husbands and wives. When referring to a husband (singular), it always also
refers to a wife (singular). “For the husband is the head of the wife
[singular] … He who loves his wife [singular] loves himself. For this reason a
man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife [singular], and
the two will become one flesh....Each one of you also must love his wife
[singular] as he loves himself, and the wife [singular] must respect her
husband [singular].” While a somewhat parallel passage, Colossians 3:18-19, refers to husbands and wives in the
plural, it is clear that Paul is addressing all the husbands and wives among
the Colossian believers, not stating that a husband might have multiple wives.
In contrast, Ephesians 5:22-33 is specifically describing the
marital relationship. If polygamy were allowable, the entire illustration of
Christ’s relationship with His body (the church) and the husband-wife
relationship falls apart.
3) Why did it change? It is not so much God’s disallowing something He
previously allowed as it is God’s restoring marriage to His original plan. Even
going back to Adam and Eve, polygamy was not God’s original intent. God seems
to have allowed polygamy to solve a problem, but it is not the ideal. In most
modern societies, there is absolutely no need for polygamy. In most cultures
today, women are able to provide for and protect themselves—removing the only
“positive” aspect of polygamy. Further, most modern nations outlaw polygamy.
According to Romans 13:1-7, we are to obey the laws the government
establishes. The only instance in which disobeying the law is permitted by
Scripture is if the law contradicts God’s commands (Acts 5:29). Since God only allows for polygamy, and does not
command it, a law prohibiting polygamy should be upheld.
Are there some instances in which the allowance for polygamy would still apply
today? Perhaps, but it is unfathomable that there would be no other possible
solution. Due to the “one flesh” aspect of marriage, the need for oneness and
harmony in marriage, and the lack of any real need for polygamy, it is our firm
belief that polygamy does not honor God and is not His design for marriage.
https://www.gotquestions.org/polygamy.html


SUMMARY
The
practical test below shows how complex these relations can be.
POLYAMORY/POLIGAMY/POLYANDY/ POLYANDRY are not God’s
will for mankind. All scripture used by
various groups are taken out of context to support their own lustful will.
WHAT IF YOU WERE/ARE INVOLVED?
Solution – Break
with it and seek counselling.
The real solution
regarding any sinful sexual relationship is found in the Creator of mankind and
in His word, the bible. A Heart changed in the inner-man, by the grace of God
through His Holy Spirit sets you free from bondage.
Consider the
following:
Sex is
like nuclear energy. Within a contained environment (marriage) very useful,
outside disastrous, harmful and dangerous.
The
solution to this disillusioned lifestyle is the Christian gospel. A Gospel of forgiveness
and restoration.
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